Another great and engaging interview. The choices for Wah Wonders Why have been Wonderful, (keeping the alliteration going).

At around 20:53 Dr Perkins-Kirkpatrick says limit it to "3, 3 and half" Greg seems to almost off-handedly reply "Okay"

WHAT THE FRAK! unfortunately my flight or fight response kicked in at that point, I had to pause the recording (to note the time stamp) but also to get up and run around waving my arms in the air trying and trying not to scream.

I can offer no reasonable argument to counter your recommendation to cut down on meat. So I try to choose more meatless meals than I ate growing up, and I have to say the choices now available make it easier for me to choose meatless than in my youth, but I just can't seem to make the complete switch to a meatless diet. I think however there is a certain inevitability to humanity going predominately vegetarian.

Greg was responding to the information in the same way you would if somebody says ‘There’s a bear behind you’. Don’t yell or scream, just move slowly towards the exit.